Female Anchor: He’s an architect experienced in steel structures. Now Richard Gage is touring the country with a controversial message about September 11.
Male Anchor: Richard Gage is here to show us why he’s calling for a more thorough investigation into the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings. Thank you so much for joining us.
Gage: You’re very welcome, it’s great to be here.
Male Anchor: Well first of all give us a little bit more about your background.
Gage: I’m an architect of twenty years, a member of the American Institute of Architects, and have been studying steel frame fire proof buildings for about that long.
Female Anchor: We ask that for clarification because as we get into this we want people to make sure that you’re not just somebody with a wacky idea, you come with some science to you. What is the official reason for the collapse of the World Trade Center towers?
Gage: Well we’re told that the planes hit the buildings, and there was an explosion and a fire, and about a hour and a half later, in the case of the north tower, the buildings collapsed due to structural weakening, due to the fires. The problem is that we don’t have large gradual deformations associated with collapses. And fires in high rises have never brought down a steel frame high rise building at all, ever. And what we have, unfortunately, is the evidence in the twin towers and the third skyscraper to collapse that day, which most people don’t know anything about it. We have the evidence of the ten key features of controlled demolition. In the case of building seven, it collapses straight down into its own footprint, at free fall speed, in the first hundred feet. It’s dropping, as you can see symmetrically, smoothly, at free fall speed, in the first hundred feet. Two and a half seconds. This is uncanny, there’s forty thousand tons of structural steel designed to resist this collapse.
Female Anchor: So, what, a forty-seven story building?
Gage: Yeah, it’s called Building Seven, a football field away from the Twin Towers.
Female Anchor: Okay, so what we’re showing is left, what happened in fact, and right is controlled, where you are using or the people who made this happen, used demolition, explosive devices.
Gage: Indeed, this a direct comparison. You can see that indeed, almost freefall speed, freefall acceleration, through forty thousand tons of structural steel. That is uncanny. So we have 700 architects and engineers demanding a new investigation as a result of this evidence and the evidence in the World Trade Center that is very explosive. Almost every architect and engineer we’ve showed this information to, agrees with us that these are controlled demolitions. If we can get them to look at the information, because obviously the implications of a controlled demolition are…dark for our country. Because that means somebody besides Al Qaeda was involved. Because these have to be easily, three of the most highly secure buildings, outside of the Pentagon.
Male Anchor: Now if that was a controlled demolition, would there not be any evidence at the ground level of explosives within the debris that’s left?
Gage: Indeed. And what we find down there is pools of molten iron. Several tons.
Male Anchor: What is that doing there?
Gage: Exactly, what is it doing there? The first responders see it, the structural engineers see it, it’s documented by FEMA. The melting of steel. Normal office fires is what’s supposed to have brought these buildings down. Along with jet plane impacts. Jet fuel and office fires don’t produce molten iron or molten steel. It doesn’t begin to melt until three thousand degrees. But what we have is, the fires only produce maybe fourteen, sixteen hundred degrees. So what produced all that molten iron? Well, it has in it the chemical evidence of a special incendiary, which is thermite, a high tech incendiary used to cut through steel like a hot knife through butter.
Female Anchor: You found that?
Gage: Indeed, in all the dust throughout lower Manhattan, we have a four to six inch thick layer of this dust, and throughout it we have evidence of tiny spheres, billions of them, several tons of previously molten iron. Well how does that happen? If you have molten iron…the by-product of thermite is molten iron and it’s dispersed through out all this dust.
Male Anchor: You were allowed to go in and get samples and examine it?
Gage: Oh, there’s plenty of dust. A lot of people have this dust, and four of these samples have been sent to physicist Steven Jones, formerly of Brigham Young University. And they find in it, not only these spheres, which others have found too, USGS, RJ Lee, doing toxicology studies. These spheres have iron, aluminum, fluorine, manganese, very unusual elements associated only with thermite. And there are small chips of unignited thermite as well. This is very high-tech thermite, nano-thermite, it’s not found in a cave in Afghanistan, it’s produced in very sophisticated defense department contracting laboratories.
Female Anchor: Okay, well, we have an enemy here, the finger has been pointed to, this was the work of Al Qaeda, this was the work of Osama bin Laden, at least to get the planes all going into the buildings and into the field in Pennsylvania and into the Pentagon. Is there no way that they then could still be the enemy that placed those in the buildings first, and then did the incendiary device via a plane second?
Gage: What you have to ask is who had access to the buildings? Did Al Qaeda have access to these highly secure buildings? Probably not. Did they have access to sophisticated nano-thermite, where the particles are one thousand times smaller than a human hair? Probably not. Somebody else has to be investigated. That’s why we have 700 architects and engineers demanding a real investigation. We don’t have the whole theory as to how this happened, who did it, why. We just lay out the facts, like we did last night in the Veterans Memorial Auditorium, and we demand a real investigation, and they’ll find out who, why, how, et cetera.
Male Anchor: Now let me ask you, I’m person X, I want to place something in one of those buildings. Where would I carry it, how big would it be? Is it that visible that I would be spotted by security? Can I place it in one of my tooth fillings?
Gage: We’re talking about several tons of nano-thermite and ordinary thermite. One would have to have access through security. So the security company involved for the World Trade Center should be thoroughly investigated. It turns out to be Securi-com, Stratesec, somebody should look and see who’s on the board of those companies. Some very interestings individuals turn out to be. In addition, one would have to have the cover, of say, an elevator modernization, which was in fact going on nine months prior to 9/11, so that there were workers throughout the World Trade Center, that had access to the hoistway that was immediately adjacent to the core columns and beams in the building.
Female Anchor: You’re not trying to freak out the country, but you can’t help but feel a little freaked out by this.
Gage: Yeah, you’re getting it.
Female Anchor: And of course this is something we want to talk to you about a whole lot more, and we’re out of time. We do have a great deal of information on our website, kmph.com. Thank you very much for your time today. You’re opening up a lot to think about.
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11 Responses to “There is Nothing Wrong with Asking Questions”
I’ve questioned the official story for years now. This guy and all the others who are pushing for investigations are right on. FAR too many unanswered questions.
Hard to take someone seriously when they are on a national tour and have a closet full of DVD’s, t-shirts and bumper stickers for sale.
Just like a lot of book writers who come up with something controversial just to sell their books.
That is the one thing that is very wrong with this country. We have way to many experts appearing on way to many shows expounding their ridicules theories, that way to many people swallow. Oprah is one prime example of how many people will blindly believe if Oprah has them on her show.
I know what you are saying Pelmo.
BUT, most grassroots efforts are funded and exist on a shoe string budget. They max out their cards, couchsurf, eat out of discount bins, shop at second hand stores, etc. Even architects are not as rich as they need to be to do nationwide tours and must sell shirts and dvd’s to help fund hotel, airfare, car rental, etc.
Most of these books don’t even make back the money a publisher put out. MOST books are actually self-published.
Oprah is the very high end and your comments may apply to her more accurately. But, there are only a very few in her crowd.
The majority of people who do this do it for altruistic reasons. Sure, some appear to me to be nuts, too.
But, I have to remember: there are some things I used to think were nuts, were only my personal programming and later turned out to be true.
I’m more interested in the message than the messenger these days. That is something I had to learn…the hard way.
But, I can also appreciate someone with something relevant to say, who has also been able to put togethr a good support team.
I agree. That is more attractive.
What do you mean Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11? If Saddam wasn’t behind 9/11 we wouldn’t have leveled Baghdad.
:-) :-) :-)
Seriously, I wonder how bin Laden’s dialysis machine is holding up in that cave…for 7 years now? Must be ok, because he just released another message. Boooga booga! (You know, his funeral was reported in the media…guy likely died in December 2001: Osama’s dead.
Good post this: Nothing wrong with asking questions. 700 architects is an impressive voice. Let’s hear them out.
I can’t get my brain around the idea that our government is controlled by murderous power-hungry fiends. But that’s just me. If it were true, we’re all complicit with every hour we work, every federal tax we pay. Go ahead, let’s ask the questions.
Jets are built of aluminum. When it’s hot enough, aluminum burns. It burns hot as hell: 4,100 degrees Kelvin, which is 6,920 degrees F. Much hotter than the 1,600 degrees this guy talks about.
I don’t believe our government is 100% murderous fiends either, John. I believe the government is made up of many layers and tentacles and I can believe that one layer of the onion could have been bad and allowed this to happen thinking it would ultimately create a better world for all concerned in the long run, but I’m not convinced of that either. I am convinced there is a layer of the government that knows more about what happened on 9/11, and that that layer is withholding information and spreading disinformation, and that the ultimate truth would reveal a lot of shades of gray that would fragment a lot of the country, and that may be the reason the truth is being withheld. But, being curious, I still want to know as many facts as possible, and I think putting facts out there (like the fact you submitted about airliner aluminum being one of the combustibles in the twin tower inferno…something I’d never thought about or heard before…something that could shed some light on some so-far unexplainable symptoms…) is a good thing, whatever direction it leads in.
Enjoyed it, but at the same time, he seems a little hypocritical, doesn’t he? Like he maybe puts a little too much faith in his atheism own atheism? I’m not one to go out and try to convert everybody, am all about tolerance, but I have seen evidence that there is some sort of collective energy…be it only collective consciousness or be it a collective consciousness with a sum that is greater than the whole of human consciousness, or be it an external consciousness…there is convincing evidence in my opinion that more exists than can be explained by bare-bones physical reality as it was taught to me in school. So, he’s being a little disrespectful himself to say he mocks folks who believe in a God — even though some of those people are very tolerant, objective folks who are trying to follow the evidence, not simply believing out of faith…he sort of lumps all believers into the evangelical fundamentalist camp.
Hey, I’m listening to a great college class from Stanford University’s online offering (http://itunes.stanford.edu/) You need iTunes, but go to the Arts and Humanities courses, and then the course is called Historical Jesus, by Thomas Sheehan. Using new findings from scholars and archeology, he goes back and tries to piece together what the person known as Jesus (Yeshua) really said (it’s almost certain Jesus didn’t think and never said he was God incarnate…) and what the times were like and what really happened…very very interesting take on how a wise man’s life can be hijacked and turned into an intolerant religion…but very absorbing to listen to somebody so knowledgeable talk about the guy without all the emotional “just-take-it-on-faith” baggage…fun to hear somebody dig into evidence for the truth and use logic and the historical record to get to truth.
I’ve questioned the official story for years now. This guy and all the others who are pushing for investigations are right on. FAR too many unanswered questions.
Hard to take someone seriously when they are on a national tour and have a closet full of DVD’s, t-shirts and bumper stickers for sale.
Just like a lot of book writers who come up with something controversial just to sell their books.
That is the one thing that is very wrong with this country. We have way to many experts appearing on way to many shows expounding their ridicules theories, that way to many people swallow. Oprah is one prime example of how many people will blindly believe if Oprah has them on her show.
I know what you are saying Pelmo.
BUT, most grassroots efforts are funded and exist on a shoe string budget. They max out their cards, couchsurf, eat out of discount bins, shop at second hand stores, etc. Even architects are not as rich as they need to be to do nationwide tours and must sell shirts and dvd’s to help fund hotel, airfare, car rental, etc.
Most of these books don’t even make back the money a publisher put out. MOST books are actually self-published.
Oprah is the very high end and your comments may apply to her more accurately. But, there are only a very few in her crowd.
The majority of people who do this do it for altruistic reasons. Sure, some appear to me to be nuts, too.
But, I have to remember: there are some things I used to think were nuts, were only my personal programming and later turned out to be true.
I’m more interested in the message than the messenger these days. That is something I had to learn…the hard way.
But, I can also appreciate someone with something relevant to say, who has also been able to put togethr a good support team.
I agree. That is more attractive.
People who claimed Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 were viewed as nuts at one time.
What do you mean Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11? If Saddam wasn’t behind 9/11 we wouldn’t have leveled Baghdad.
:-) :-) :-)
Seriously, I wonder how bin Laden’s dialysis machine is holding up in that cave…for 7 years now? Must be ok, because he just released another message. Boooga booga! (You know, his funeral was reported in the media…guy likely died in December 2001: Osama’s dead.
Good post this: Nothing wrong with asking questions. 700 architects is an impressive voice. Let’s hear them out.
I can’t get my brain around the idea that our government is controlled by murderous power-hungry fiends. But that’s just me. If it were true, we’re all complicit with every hour we work, every federal tax we pay. Go ahead, let’s ask the questions.
Jets are built of aluminum. When it’s hot enough, aluminum burns. It burns hot as hell: 4,100 degrees Kelvin, which is 6,920 degrees F. Much hotter than the 1,600 degrees this guy talks about.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/At_what_temperature_will_aluminum_burn
I do believe the Baker - Hamilton investigation was cut short.
I don’t believe our government is 100% murderous fiends either, John. I believe the government is made up of many layers and tentacles and I can believe that one layer of the onion could have been bad and allowed this to happen thinking it would ultimately create a better world for all concerned in the long run, but I’m not convinced of that either. I am convinced there is a layer of the government that knows more about what happened on 9/11, and that that layer is withholding information and spreading disinformation, and that the ultimate truth would reveal a lot of shades of gray that would fragment a lot of the country, and that may be the reason the truth is being withheld. But, being curious, I still want to know as many facts as possible, and I think putting facts out there (like the fact you submitted about airliner aluminum being one of the combustibles in the twin tower inferno…something I’d never thought about or heard before…something that could shed some light on some so-far unexplainable symptoms…) is a good thing, whatever direction it leads in.
Asking questions makes you a Muslim, pinko, atheist, liberal, comsymp.
How true.
Been enjoying a new youtube guy. Pat Condell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPAC_cGVnUg
He must have 50 or 100 videos Most are excellent entertainment and well done…even if one doesn’t agree.
Xman you spend to much time in that secluded cabin. You have to communicate with people and get your nose away from youtube and lead a normal life.
Enjoyed it, but at the same time, he seems a little hypocritical, doesn’t he? Like he maybe puts a little too much faith in his atheism own atheism? I’m not one to go out and try to convert everybody, am all about tolerance, but I have seen evidence that there is some sort of collective energy…be it only collective consciousness or be it a collective consciousness with a sum that is greater than the whole of human consciousness, or be it an external consciousness…there is convincing evidence in my opinion that more exists than can be explained by bare-bones physical reality as it was taught to me in school. So, he’s being a little disrespectful himself to say he mocks folks who believe in a God — even though some of those people are very tolerant, objective folks who are trying to follow the evidence, not simply believing out of faith…he sort of lumps all believers into the evangelical fundamentalist camp.
Hey, I’m listening to a great college class from Stanford University’s online offering (http://itunes.stanford.edu/) You need iTunes, but go to the Arts and Humanities courses, and then the course is called Historical Jesus, by Thomas Sheehan. Using new findings from scholars and archeology, he goes back and tries to piece together what the person known as Jesus (Yeshua) really said (it’s almost certain Jesus didn’t think and never said he was God incarnate…) and what the times were like and what really happened…very very interesting take on how a wise man’s life can be hijacked and turned into an intolerant religion…but very absorbing to listen to somebody so knowledgeable talk about the guy without all the emotional “just-take-it-on-faith” baggage…fun to hear somebody dig into evidence for the truth and use logic and the historical record to get to truth.