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	<title>Comments on: Holy Bible Says America&#8217;s Going to Hell</title>
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	<description>A dissident twist of reality...</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Xman</title>
		<link>http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2008/07/14/holy-bible-says-americas-going-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-32801</link>
		<dc:creator>Xman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a coincidence.
I've been discussing the same sorts of misunderstandings and distortions with a few people lately.

Mormons generally think that any wine drunk by biblical people, early mormons, etc. was grape juice. un-fermented. I think the reason Mormons in particular are so succeptable to rumour, myth, old wives tales, etc. is that their leaders are not generally scholars. Their bishops are taken right out of the congregation. One particular bishop and I got into this "grape juice" discussion. I reminded him that Brigham Young directed the planting of a vineyard and building of a winery shortly after entering the Salt Lake valley. The bishop adamantly insisted that it was for grape juice only. I said, okay, then what about the distillery he also ordered built? He became so red faced and agitated that I thought I was going to be attacked. It didn't help him when I presented the Weber State Historical Society writings on the subject. Sometime later, he brought it up again and said he had been mistaken and that it was just the biblical people who had the grape juice. I should have let it go, but couldn't. I asked him how he accounted for the passage in the bible where Noah filled himself on new wine and lay sprawled drunk and naked and his sons came along and covered him with a blanket? I haven't seen the guy since.

It seems to me, lots of people are gaining their "knowlege from people who themselves know little. Like people learning their geography from McCain or their logic from O'Reeeeally or Hannity. I have basically given up trying to have a rational discussion with anyone who watches Fox. They simply don't have the tools for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a coincidence.<br />
I&#8217;ve been discussing the same sorts of misunderstandings and distortions with a few people lately.</p>
<p>Mormons generally think that any wine drunk by biblical people, early mormons, etc. was grape juice. un-fermented. I think the reason Mormons in particular are so succeptable to rumour, myth, old wives tales, etc. is that their leaders are not generally scholars. Their bishops are taken right out of the congregation. One particular bishop and I got into this &#8220;grape juice&#8221; discussion. I reminded him that Brigham Young directed the planting of a vineyard and building of a winery shortly after entering the Salt Lake valley. The bishop adamantly insisted that it was for grape juice only. I said, okay, then what about the distillery he also ordered built? He became so red faced and agitated that I thought I was going to be attacked. It didn&#8217;t help him when I presented the Weber State Historical Society writings on the subject. Sometime later, he brought it up again and said he had been mistaken and that it was just the biblical people who had the grape juice. I should have let it go, but couldn&#8217;t. I asked him how he accounted for the passage in the bible where Noah filled himself on new wine and lay sprawled drunk and naked and his sons came along and covered him with a blanket? I haven&#8217;t seen the guy since.</p>
<p>It seems to me, lots of people are gaining their &#8220;knowlege from people who themselves know little. Like people learning their geography from McCain or their logic from O&#8217;Reeeeally or Hannity. I have basically given up trying to have a rational discussion with anyone who watches Fox. They simply don&#8217;t have the tools for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigobusiness</title>
		<link>http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2008/07/14/holy-bible-says-americas-going-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-32795</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigobusiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll try again (for some reason my message was truncated).
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”If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s good enough for me.” 

Hahahahaaaa... (That's rich!)

It may not be for us to know the fullest truth, but surely it's our duty to identify the false we're able to truly recognize.

Thanks, Jodi.

(Apologies to Mathew for my misspelling, I always do that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try again (for some reason my message was truncated).<br />
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<p>”If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it’s good enough for me.” </p>
<p>Hahahahaaaa&#8230; (That&#8217;s rich!)</p>
<p>It may not be for us to know the fullest truth, but surely it&#8217;s our duty to identify the false we&#8217;re able to truly recognize.</p>
<p>Thanks, Jodi.</p>
<p>(Apologies to Mathew for my misspelling, I always do that.)</p>
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		<title>By: Indigobusiness</title>
		<link>http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2008/07/14/holy-bible-says-americas-going-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-32794</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigobusiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for me." </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&#8221;If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it&#8217;s good enough for me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JoeC</title>
		<link>http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2008/07/14/holy-bible-says-americas-going-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-32793</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oohhhh...that's a good article, Jodi. Thanks for sharing the link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oohhhh&#8230;that&#8217;s a good article, Jodi. Thanks for sharing the link!</p>
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		<title>By: jodi</title>
		<link>http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2008/07/14/holy-bible-says-americas-going-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-32792</link>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beware of those who try to speak for God.

http://www.collegenews.org/x4592.xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beware of those who try to speak for God.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.collegenews.org/x4592.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.collegenews.org/x4592.xml</a></p>
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