Comments on: Illegal Immigration Part 2: Border Patrol

by: JoeC

Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:50:03 +0000

Good government (and leadership in general) is about giving people good incentives to do the right thing. From the war on terrorism to the war in Iraq to most everything the current administration has touched, they’ve been “leading” with billion-dollar big sticks and waterboards, when the right incentives would work much better at alleviating national problems. And of course, they have displayed a huge lack of respect for many.

by: Xman

Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:53:35 +0000

I have a new set of rules I made on my PH adjusting vacation.
So, I’m not going to let anyone seperate me from the common humanity I feel for all peoples.

Maybe this is an issue we need to deal with.
But I think we know a few things:

It would be simple and without any cost to get all illegals to leave if our government really wanted them to.
Just fine AND put in jail anyone/employer who hires an illegal. Without work, illegals could not eat, pay rent, drive cars. They would take themselves home without any cost to us.

We don’t need a fence, since no ne would come over if they couldn’t work.

I think we know the management arm of the corporations (Congress) doesn’t want to do anything to stop the flow. Business wants the cheap labor and they don’t want the cheap labor to have any of the costly protections or benefits Americans have.

I think we know what great techniques demonizing and dividing are. They lead to actions that take us away from reasonable discussion and toward antagonism and war.

I’m not a Christian, but Christ is reputed to have advised that we love our enemies. I think it is logical to assume that to get to “love”, we must first seek to understand and respect.

by: JoeC

Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:00:45 +0000

Dusty’s right…a big part of the illegal immigrant population came to the U.S. legally, but then overstayed their visas. A super-duper fence won’t help with that problem.

by: Dusty

Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:18:56 +0000

No jobs will keep the great unwashed masses from coming to the US. Its a no-friggin-brainer and I am tired of saying it.

AZ recently enacted a law that will penalize the company’s and corporations that hire illegal immigrants..and the sliding scale gets worse each time they are busted..up and including losing their right to have a business operating in AZ. The law was fought in the courts and the courts have so far upheld AZ’s right to go after the companies.

Sadly, the majority of illegals do not come in by walking over that god-forsaken border..its a known fact and I am tired of repeating that also. So building this worthless expensive boondoggle won’t do anything except make the damn contractor rich. Just like the camera’s the feds paid for that don’t work along the border..that company was paid in full and they don’t fucking work at all.

There are so many wrong assumptions out there about illegal immigrants it makes me sick.

by: uk immigration

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:42:49 +0000

A fence will not work and whilst the US taxpayer would eventually have to pay for it, in the short term the US will have to borrow more money from China to fund it.
Anybody naive enough to think a fence will work should look up ‘Maginot Line’…
When you consider how much the Bush administration has wasted/paid itself on the war in Iraq it amazes me that there are still people like zeezil who think the illegal immigrants are stealing from him/her; I’ve got news for you it’s not the immigrants - it’s your government.