Comments on: Ehren Watada - Dissident Lieutenant http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/ A dissident twist of reality... Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:55:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: JoeC http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5604 Fri, 11 May 2007 01:27:49 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5604 It's amazing to me how many people STILL fault Ali for refusing to be drafted, but give Cheney and the other chickenhawks a pass. I mean, Cheney couldn't go because...well, in his own words: "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service. I don't regret the decisions I made. I complied fully with all the requirements of the statutes, registered with the draft when I turned 18. Had I been drafted, I would have been happy to serve. I think those who did in fact serve deserve to be honored for their service.... Was it a noble cause? Yes, indeed, I think it was." Congressman Dick Cheney in 1989, describing his five deferments during the Vietnam War. Haha...I'll bet a LOT of people had other priorities in the '60s! Yep, the wingers are being tough on Watada. If only they'd be as tough on the commander in chief. It’s amazing to me how many people STILL fault Ali for refusing to be drafted, but give Cheney and the other chickenhawks a pass. I mean, Cheney couldn’t go because…well, in his own words:

“I had other priorities in the ’60s than military service. I don’t regret the decisions I made. I complied fully with all the requirements of the statutes, registered with the draft when I turned 18. Had I been drafted, I would have been happy to serve. I think those who did in fact serve deserve to be honored for their service…. Was it a noble cause? Yes, indeed, I think it was.” Congressman Dick Cheney in 1989, describing his five deferments during the Vietnam War.

Haha…I’ll bet a LOT of people had other priorities in the ’60s!

Yep, the wingers are being tough on Watada. If only they’d be as tough on the commander in chief.

]]> by: Xman http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5592 Thu, 10 May 2007 19:48:21 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5592 I hope there is soon a flood of these guys speaking out. Seems to me much like the time early in the viet nam war when first a trickle started, then a flood. Was anyone besides me alive when cassius clay refused to go? I was amazed at all the hate directed at him. So much of it due to his color, but he stood on his principles. He had principles. Not like Cheney who dodged just because he could. Watadas case is big here in portland since it is close to his base. I feel especially good about it since he is an officer, a minority and so eloquent...and bases his action on our founding documents. I'm very proud of him. But, go to youtube and see what the wingers have to say....whew! That is where hate lives. I hope there is soon a flood of these guys speaking out. Seems to me much like the time early in the viet nam war when first a trickle started, then a flood. Was anyone besides me alive when cassius clay refused to go? I was amazed at all the hate directed at him. So much of it due to his color, but he stood on his principles. He had principles. Not like Cheney who dodged just because he could.
Watadas case is big here in portland since it is close to his base. I feel especially good about it since he is an officer, a minority and so eloquent…and bases his action on our founding documents.
I’m very proud of him.
But, go to youtube and see what the wingers have to say….whew!
That is where hate lives.

]]> by: JoeC http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5560 Wed, 09 May 2007 19:26:15 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5560 Just a note about my last comment...it's amazing how the more times the word "interesting" is used in a comment, the less interesting it usually is. Don't you think that's interesting how that works? I find it VERY interesting. ;-) Just a note about my last comment…it’s amazing how the more times the word “interesting” is used in a comment, the less interesting it usually is. Don’t you think that’s interesting how that works? I find it VERY interesting. ;-)

]]> by: JoeC http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5559 Wed, 09 May 2007 19:20:22 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5559 Brent: my bad for not making it clear, but don't really have the top 10 in any particular order...probably should have put them in either chronological order, or some kind of importance order, but found it much more interesting to intersperse the heavyweights with lesser-knowns to keep it more interesting and not end up with all the Gandhi's and MLK's at the end. Also, this list is just a "most-interesting-to-Joe" list. There are tons of dissidents that I read about that I didn't see any new angles on -- people whose stories had been told far and wide, where one more article on them wouldn't add anything new. So, Watada being in the upper half of the list...I didn't mean necessarily rank him higher or lower than the others in the list. He's just another dissident I found interesting at this point in time. It'd be interesting to do a more thorough list and have a poll so everybody could rank 'em... Brent: my bad for not making it clear, but don’t really have the top 10 in any particular order…probably should have put them in either chronological order, or some kind of importance order, but found it much more interesting to intersperse the heavyweights with lesser-knowns to keep it more interesting and not end up with all the Gandhi’s and MLK’s at the end.

Also, this list is just a “most-interesting-to-Joe” list. There are tons of dissidents that I read about that I didn’t see any new angles on — people whose stories had been told far and wide, where one more article on them wouldn’t add anything new.

So, Watada being in the upper half of the list…I didn’t mean necessarily rank him higher or lower than the others in the list. He’s just another dissident I found interesting at this point in time.

It’d be interesting to do a more thorough list and have a poll so everybody could rank ‘em…

]]> by: Brent http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5558 Wed, 09 May 2007 18:38:33 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/05/08/ehren-watada-dissident-lieutenant/#comment-5558 I'm liking the dissidents so far, but Watada is too highly ranked IMHO. I’m liking the dissidents so far, but Watada is too highly ranked IMHO.

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