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	<title>Comments on: George Tenet is a Torture Monger</title>
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	<description>A dissident twist of reality...</description>
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		<title>By: Xman</title>
		<link>http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/26/george-tenet-is-a-torture-monger/comment-page-1/#comment-5387</link>
		<dc:creator>Xman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, published before I was done.

I hope house investigators are looking into the "shredding volume" at whatever departments the house is trying to get info from. If I was trying not to get indicted on war crimes or just being dishonest, I'd be shredding as fast as I could.

Did you see Jon Stewart the other night when he lampooned "Regency U"? Apparently a 4th tier law school owned by Pat Robertson...and 150 of their "graduates" now work for bush. Put that with bushes comments that he answers to a higher power and we have a fertile ground for other than approved crops. What does that cop nose say, Pelmo?

btw, has anyone been watching the new incarnation of Bill Moyers on PBS television? He is pulling very few punches. Best TV I've seen in years. Had Jon Stewart on last night. Stewart is a genius when he is serious even more than when he is funny. Moyers is adding quite a few sraws to the camels back. If we all keep piling on what we can.......

Joe, I wish you were right about young DC politicians starting out idealistic and I'm sure there are exceptions. But, most that go to washington also had careers in local or state politics and judging from the ones I know, have the "habit" long before they leave town for the big city.

I'm so negative the last few days. I should be coming out of it, since Moyers and Stewart really lift my spirits.</description>
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<p>I hope house investigators are looking into the &#8220;shredding volume&#8221; at whatever departments the house is trying to get info from. If I was trying not to get indicted on war crimes or just being dishonest, I&#8217;d be shredding as fast as I could.</p>
<p>Did you see Jon Stewart the other night when he lampooned &#8220;Regency U&#8221;? Apparently a 4th tier law school owned by Pat Robertson&#8230;and 150 of their &#8220;graduates&#8221; now work for bush. Put that with bushes comments that he answers to a higher power and we have a fertile ground for other than approved crops. What does that cop nose say, Pelmo?</p>
<p>btw, has anyone been watching the new incarnation of Bill Moyers on PBS television? He is pulling very few punches. Best TV I&#8217;ve seen in years. Had Jon Stewart on last night. Stewart is a genius when he is serious even more than when he is funny. Moyers is adding quite a few sraws to the camels back. If we all keep piling on what we can&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Joe, I wish you were right about young DC politicians starting out idealistic and I&#8217;m sure there are exceptions. But, most that go to washington also had careers in local or state politics and judging from the ones I know, have the &#8220;habit&#8221; long before they leave town for the big city.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so negative the last few days. I should be coming out of it, since Moyers and Stewart really lift my spirits.</p>
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		<title>By: Xman</title>
		<link>http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/26/george-tenet-is-a-torture-monger/comment-page-1/#comment-5382</link>
		<dc:creator>Xman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 14:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelmo,
More and more I think you are right. I think we are being "worked" by a team of pro's. Auction houses have a "confederate" in the crowd who "bids up" for the house, faith healers run a team, politicians use the worlds best psychometrics, etc., to caputure as many of us as possible, cops use good cop, bad cop, to get info. It's a a "sleight of hand" thing isn't it? I used to use it when I didn't care about longterm results...in dating. "baby, I'm the best thing you've ever seen in every way and I love all your strange little quirks" (for today/tonight/for awhile...I just want some yum yum).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelmo,<br />
More and more I think you are right. I think we are being &#8220;worked&#8221; by a team of pro&#8217;s. Auction houses have a &#8220;confederate&#8221; in the crowd who &#8220;bids up&#8221; for the house, faith healers run a team, politicians use the worlds best psychometrics, etc., to caputure as many of us as possible, cops use good cop, bad cop, to get info. It&#8217;s a a &#8220;sleight of hand&#8221; thing isn&#8217;t it? I used to use it when I didn&#8217;t care about longterm results&#8230;in dating. &#8220;baby, I&#8217;m the best thing you&#8217;ve ever seen in every way and I love all your strange little quirks&#8221; (for today/tonight/for awhile&#8230;I just want some yum yum).</p>
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		<title>By: pelmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>pelmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn't it be great to hear somone speak up like that, but sad to say most people would rather have them pitch the bull shit then hear the truth and naturally elect those idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be great to hear somone speak up like that, but sad to say most people would rather have them pitch the bull shit then hear the truth and naturally elect those idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it's hard to know how much is for show, playing bad cop/good cop for the public while they loot the nation, and how much emotion is real emotion. I do think a lot of politicians start out with good and moral intentions, but by the time they get to the national level, they start thinking they can do more good by doing some criminal things...playing ball, if you will. I'd like to see more of them have a wake-up call, sort of like Warren Beatty's character in Bulworth...that'd be sweet to see somebody totally crack and come clean on Larry King!

You know...I just looked it up and watched the rap scene. Beatty's words are more relevant today than ever. It's a little slow starting, but wait till he gets to the rap:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s hard to know how much is for show, playing bad cop/good cop for the public while they loot the nation, and how much emotion is real emotion. I do think a lot of politicians start out with good and moral intentions, but by the time they get to the national level, they start thinking they can do more good by doing some criminal things&#8230;playing ball, if you will. I&#8217;d like to see more of them have a wake-up call, sort of like Warren Beatty&#8217;s character in Bulworth&#8230;that&#8217;d be sweet to see somebody totally crack and come clean on Larry King!</p>
<p>You know&#8230;I just looked it up and watched the rap scene. Beatty&#8217;s words are more relevant today than ever. It&#8217;s a little slow starting, but wait till he gets to the rap:</p>
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		<title>By: pelmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>pelmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being an old fart and a retired cop, I tend to look at things diffrently. So let me throw a little shit into the game.
Did anyone ever consider that the war and all these sacraficial lambs of late are being used as a smoke screen by both parties, so that everything else will be flying under the radar, as the wheeling and dealing goes on.
Obscene 30%, 40% and higher quaterly profits, as good jobs are shipped overseas and nothing is heard from congress. Bill Gates wants more HB1 visas so he could higher cheaper labor, while laying off his higher paid workers. And congress is willing to give it to him.
Family farmers squeezed, as most farm subsidies go to big agro corporations. 
Why do some bills pass quickly, and others linger, and then suddenly pass with little of no fan fare, favoring corporate America and shafting the citizens. 

If I had to describe this fight between the democrats and republicans, it would be a lot of dancing and sparring, with no real punches thrown by either one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being an old fart and a retired cop, I tend to look at things diffrently. So let me throw a little shit into the game.<br />
Did anyone ever consider that the war and all these sacraficial lambs of late are being used as a smoke screen by both parties, so that everything else will be flying under the radar, as the wheeling and dealing goes on.<br />
Obscene 30%, 40% and higher quaterly profits, as good jobs are shipped overseas and nothing is heard from congress. Bill Gates wants more HB1 visas so he could higher cheaper labor, while laying off his higher paid workers. And congress is willing to give it to him.<br />
Family farmers squeezed, as most farm subsidies go to big agro corporations.<br />
Why do some bills pass quickly, and others linger, and then suddenly pass with little of no fan fare, favoring corporate America and shafting the citizens. </p>
<p>If I had to describe this fight between the democrats and republicans, it would be a lot of dancing and sparring, with no real punches thrown by either one.</p>
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