Comments on: Daniel Ellsberg - Dissident Leaker of Pentagon Papers http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/ A dissident twist of reality... Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:28:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: JoeC http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4509 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:24:05 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4509 Wow. Thanks for the background, Xman. Sounds like Robert Altman (if he were still here...) could make a movie base on your experiences! Glad you DIDN'T see any action, and you're still here to talk about it. Thanks again for sharing! Wow. Thanks for the background, Xman. Sounds like Robert Altman (if he were still here…) could make a movie base on your experiences!

Glad you DIDN’T see any action, and you’re still here to talk about it. Thanks again for sharing!

]]> by: Xman http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4500 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 19:29:07 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4500 Well, I made the mistake of raising my hand when asked who could type. I ended up going back to my original basic training company and becoming the company clerk. Sorry, no war stories. I would do CQ (charge of quarters guard) duty on thursdays nights, get friday off, girlrfriends waiting in the parking lot and have a 3 day weekend. My DI's were surfers who kept their hair up under their hats and had a suspicious odor about them. I did their paperwork, covered for them and they gave me a lot of flexibility. The mess hall (dining hall, please) was a beautiful, new glass and steel structure on a hill that would cook whatever breakfast for you that you wanted. Eggs any style. Any kind of meat. All the juices, etc. Same with dinners. "How do you want your steak". When we went on exercises, the food wagons pulled into a semi-circle in the sand and the first time I rolled up the door of the first wagon, there were breaded oysters. The barracks had 2 beer machines. 50 cents each. No limit as long as you showed up in the am for work. In spite of all this bounty, we still had suicide attempts, a drug dealer was tossed from the 3rd floor, etc. yeah, I know. I have been called a liar on this. all I can say is it was california. Well, I made the mistake of raising my hand when asked who could type.
I ended up going back to my original basic training company and becoming the company clerk.
Sorry, no war stories. I would do CQ (charge of quarters guard) duty on thursdays nights, get friday off, girlrfriends waiting in the parking lot and have a 3 day weekend.
My DI’s were surfers who kept their hair up under their hats and had a suspicious odor about them.
I did their paperwork, covered for them and they gave me a lot of flexibility.
The mess hall (dining hall, please) was a beautiful, new glass and steel structure on a hill that would cook whatever breakfast for you that you wanted. Eggs any style. Any kind of meat. All the juices, etc. Same with dinners. “How do you want your steak”.
When we went on exercises, the food wagons pulled into a semi-circle in the sand and the first time I rolled up the door of the first wagon, there were breaded oysters.
The barracks had 2 beer machines. 50 cents each. No limit as long as you showed up in the am for work.
In spite of all this bounty, we still had suicide attempts, a drug dealer was tossed from the 3rd floor, etc.

yeah, I know. I have been called a liar on this. all I can say is it was california.

]]> by: JoeC http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4452 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:17:49 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4452 Xman: P.S. What happened after you signed up? Did you go to Southeast Asia? Everything turn out OK? You've got the microphone...fill us in (if you want to...) Xman: P.S. What happened after you signed up? Did you go to Southeast Asia? Everything turn out OK? You’ve got the microphone…fill us in (if you want to…)

]]> by: JoeC http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4449 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:01:39 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4449 Yeah, at least Nixon, however crooked, really did seem to think he was fighting the spread of Communism. Since the neocons emerged out of the Republican administrations of the 1970s, it seems like all they want is to make a buck...seems like they are looting the country and just don't care about the rest of us. Yeah, at least Nixon, however crooked, really did seem to think he was fighting the spread of Communism. Since the neocons emerged out of the Republican administrations of the 1970s, it seems like all they want is to make a buck…seems like they are looting the country and just don’t care about the rest of us.

]]> by: Xman http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4444 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 06:15:06 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/04/04/daniel-ellsberg-dissident-leaker-of-pentagon-papers/#comment-4444 I was going to Chico State and picked up a paperback version of the Pentagon Papers at a 7/11. I stood there reading at the rack, flipping pages randomly and it seemed almost every page had Nixon on it plotting against, cussing or bad mouthing someone. I bought it and tried to read passages to my republican family. They wouldn't believe it was real and didn't want to hear it. Odd as it seems (at odds with their republicanism), my folks had sent me to mexico city and edmonton to check out the universities years earlier. They never mentioned it was to get my out of the country, safe from the draft. Stupid me, I answered the draft shrugged off the hands/arms of a beautiful girl volunteering outside the oakland induction center that was trying to keep me from going. She tried to get me on buses that were parked on the street that were taking guys to mexico or canada. A home and jobs were waiting at either end. But like the brain dead robot I was, I brushed her off, took the pledge and stepped forward. The difference then vs now? It seems like there were leaders of more principle back then. Yeah, characters, yeah crooks, but many also did care about our country. It seems the government has less than that now. I was going to Chico State and picked up a paperback version of the Pentagon Papers at a 7/11. I stood there reading at the rack, flipping pages randomly and it seemed almost every page had Nixon on it plotting against, cussing or bad mouthing someone. I bought it and tried to read passages to my republican family. They wouldn’t believe it was real and didn’t want to hear it.
Odd as it seems (at odds with their republicanism), my folks had sent me to mexico city and edmonton to check out the universities years earlier. They never mentioned it was to get my out of the country, safe from the draft.
Stupid me, I answered the draft shrugged off the hands/arms of a beautiful girl volunteering outside the oakland induction center that was trying to keep me from going. She tried to get me on buses that were parked on the street that were taking guys to mexico or canada. A home and jobs were waiting at either end. But like the brain dead robot I was, I brushed her off, took the pledge and stepped forward.

The difference then vs now?
It seems like there were leaders of more principle back then. Yeah, characters, yeah crooks, but many also did care about our country. It seems the government has less than that now.

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