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]]> By: JoeC http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/03/27/andrei-sakharov-dissident-father-of-the-hydrogen-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-4194 JoeC Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:40:23 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/03/27/andrei-sakharov-dissident-father-of-the-hydrogen-bomb/#comment-4194 HahhahaaAHhahha...LOL at that last paragraph. You explained it all well, and I agree wit' ya', Indigo...rancid is really just a state of the coffee. I get it now. And thanks for reminding me of those Dimaggio commercials...I think we all miss Dimaggio, even if he was just pitching coffee makers. HahhahaaAHhahha…LOL at that last paragraph. You explained it all well, and I agree wit’ ya’, Indigo…rancid is really just a state of the coffee. I get it now. And thanks for reminding me of those Dimaggio commercials…I think we all miss Dimaggio, even if he was just pitching coffee makers.

]]> By: Indigobusiness http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/03/27/andrei-sakharov-dissident-father-of-the-hydrogen-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-4191 Indigobusiness Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:28:51 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/03/27/andrei-sakharov-dissident-father-of-the-hydrogen-bomb/#comment-4191 Good point, that some might like rancid coffee, but, nominally, it is just an observation that the coffee has gone bad, it has no intrinsic negativity (especially if rancidity is valued). It is positively rancid. Absolutely. Cheers!? A negative would be derisive, like someone saying "Joe, your coffee making sucks." Which might be said to be an objective observation, unless you used your Mr. Coffee just like millions of others, precisely as per Joe D.'s instructions. Then, it might be said "Joe, your coffee-maker sucks." Sucking can be positive, negative, or neutral -it all depends on the situation, the sucker, and the suckee. (Sorry for this, but I had to jolt my attention from monkeybutt coffee). Good point, that some might like rancid coffee, but, nominally, it is just an observation that the coffee has gone bad, it has no intrinsic negativity (especially if rancidity is valued). It is positively rancid. Absolutely. Cheers!?

A negative would be derisive, like someone saying “Joe, your coffee making sucks.” Which might be said to be an objective observation, unless you used your Mr. Coffee just like millions of others, precisely as per Joe D.’s instructions. Then, it might be said “Joe, your coffee-maker sucks.”

Sucking can be positive, negative, or neutral -it all depends on the situation, the sucker, and the suckee. (Sorry for this, but I had to jolt my attention from monkeybutt coffee).

]]> By: JoeC http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/03/27/andrei-sakharov-dissident-father-of-the-hydrogen-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-4187 JoeC Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:37:22 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/03/27/andrei-sakharov-dissident-father-of-the-hydrogen-bomb/#comment-4187 I agree, it's fun to be cynical...Andy Rooney has taken it to an art form. I wanna be like him. I Like Andy, darn it. I have two of his books. He's a real American Hero. But, as to your coffee comment, saying it sucks is not objective, because "suck" is a negative judgement, right? I'm sure somebody would decide they prefer rancid coffee. After all, somebody decided to try <a href="http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/12/07/gourmet-coffee-from-a-monkeys-butt/" rel="nofollow">coffee that came out of a monkey's butt.</a> Now it's the most expensive coffee in the world. ;-) I agree, it’s fun to be cynical…Andy Rooney has taken it to an art form. I wanna be like him. I Like Andy, darn it. I have two of his books. He’s a real American Hero.

But, as to your coffee comment, saying it sucks is not objective, because “suck” is a negative judgement, right? I’m sure somebody would decide they prefer rancid coffee. After all, somebody decided to try coffee that came out of a monkey’s butt. Now it’s the most expensive coffee in the world. ;-)

]]> By: Indigobusiness http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/03/27/andrei-sakharov-dissident-father-of-the-hydrogen-bomb/comment-page-1/#comment-4184 Indigobusiness Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:04:40 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/03/27/andrei-sakharov-dissident-father-of-the-hydrogen-bomb/#comment-4184 So, Joe, everything is subjective? I thought I made a good case for the dispassionate, objective perspective. We are speaking more of reactionary response (and delusion), rather than actual analysis of the nature of value judgment. My views on this changed once I learned to set aside my personal tastes and to recognize, as art, work that I personally thought of as something akin to puke on shoes. So, say you make coffee, and discover the beans have turned rancid... when you then say "this coffee sucks", you're not being negative, you're just making an honest, and objective, observation. On the other hand, I think positivism feeds on itself, but it's just plain fun to be cynical and sarcastic...and downright negative. So, Joe, everything is subjective?

I thought I made a good case for the dispassionate, objective perspective.

We are speaking more of reactionary response (and delusion), rather than actual analysis of the nature of value judgment.

My views on this changed once I learned to set aside my personal tastes and to recognize, as art, work that I personally thought of as something akin to puke on shoes.

So, say you make coffee, and discover the beans have turned rancid… when you then say “this coffee sucks”, you’re not being negative, you’re just making an honest, and objective, observation.

On the other hand, I think positivism feeds on itself, but it’s just plain fun to be cynical and sarcastic…and downright negative.

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