Comments on: The Meek Christian http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/ A dissident twist of reality... Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:53:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: JoeC http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-32718 JoeC Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:20:14 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/#comment-32718 Yuriy: I think Jesus said people who stand for the truth will be "persecuted" not "prosecuted," or at least that's the most accepted translation of what somebody said were his words, probably originally spoken in Aramaic, not English. What many Christians miss is that it was the religious right which persecuted Jesus in his time, and he was just telling us that if we stood for truth, we will be persecuted...probably by the religious right, too. That would be you. So, by your own argument, I could easily come to the conclusion that you are condemned and I am not. But, by Jesus's argument, as explained so well by La Sirena, the kingdom of heaven is here and now if we'd only see it, and if you look around, now includes everybody, no? And that's a very unpopular message, and I think that's why some very religious people manipulated the Romans into killing him. But that's just my opinion, and I understand other people have their own opinion, and as long as we don't hate and kill each other over them, I'm ok with that. Yuriy: I think Jesus said people who stand for the truth will be “persecuted” not “prosecuted,” or at least that’s the most accepted translation of what somebody said were his words, probably originally spoken in Aramaic, not English.

What many Christians miss is that it was the religious right which persecuted Jesus in his time, and he was just telling us that if we stood for truth, we will be persecuted…probably by the religious right, too. That would be you. So, by your own argument, I could easily come to the conclusion that you are condemned and I am not.

But, by Jesus’s argument, as explained so well by La Sirena, the kingdom of heaven is here and now if we’d only see it, and if you look around, now includes everybody, no? And that’s a very unpopular message, and I think that’s why some very religious people manipulated the Romans into killing him. But that’s just my opinion, and I understand other people have their own opinion, and as long as we don’t hate and kill each other over them, I’m ok with that.

]]> By: La Sirena http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-32717 La Sirena Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:56:52 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/#comment-32717 Yuriy, Unfortunately, people like you have taken the Christ out of Christianity with your narrow-minded finger-pointing. We have allowed you to control the religious discourse and dialog in this country for too long now. So I will be brave. It is not okay to hate because of your religion, or because you think that's what your Bible says. Christ's central message was not hate and judgement, it was love and peace. If you can't acept that simple fact, than clearly you do not understand the New Testament and therefore you are not a Christian -- whatever you may call yourself. Yuriy,

Unfortunately, people like you have taken the Christ out of Christianity with your narrow-minded finger-pointing. We have allowed you to control the religious discourse and dialog in this country for too long now. So I will be brave.

It is not okay to hate because of your religion, or because you think that’s what your Bible says. Christ’s central message was not hate and judgement, it was love and peace. If you can’t acept that simple fact, than clearly you do not understand the New Testament and therefore you are not a Christian — whatever you may call yourself.

]]> By: Yuriy http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-32709 Yuriy Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:08:23 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/#comment-32709 I believe my Jesus is also God who is also a judge. I believe that the Bible says it is what it is, i.e the word of God, and so therefore I should not allow my emotion to eliminate God's Truth from His Word - Bible. I believe that Jesus is who He said he was, not just some " cool dude, who gets down with the sinners ". His mission was very specific , to bring the light, but not to "hang out". I believe that Jesus said, you are the light and you should not stay hidden under the bed , I understand this as " I am a Christian, but I don't say that I am". I believe that being a wimp who has been shut up by the devil is not who can lead multitudes to Christ. I think Cross will always be the symbol of Christ and never of the people who stole it. Just like the rainbow is God's and NOT homosexual's. I also believe that allowing homosexual indoctrination in schools is not what Jesus would approve of. I believe even Christians walk and talk in flesh and this is why you say some of the things that you are saying. You allow your emotions and feelings stand in the way of God's word. Truth is, with the way you are acting you will never encounter any resistance from this world. Jesus clearly said you will be prosecuted if you stand for truth. Have you truth ? I believe my Jesus is also God who is also a judge. I believe that the Bible says it is what it is, i.e the word of God, and so therefore I should not allow my emotion to eliminate God’s Truth from His Word - Bible. I believe that Jesus is who He said he was, not just some ” cool dude, who gets down with the sinners “. His mission was very specific , to bring the light, but not to “hang out”. I believe that Jesus said, you are the light and you should not stay hidden under the bed , I understand this as ” I am a Christian, but I don’t say that I am”. I believe that being a wimp who has been shut up by the devil is not who can lead multitudes to Christ. I think Cross will always be the symbol of Christ and never of the people who stole it. Just like the rainbow is God’s and NOT homosexual’s. I also believe that allowing homosexual indoctrination in schools is not what Jesus would approve of. I believe even Christians walk and talk in flesh and this is why you say some of the things that you are saying. You allow your emotions and feelings stand in the way of God’s word. Truth is, with the way you are acting you will never encounter any resistance from this world. Jesus clearly said you will be prosecuted if you stand for truth. Have you truth ?

]]> By: fred http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-5475 fred Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:48:45 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/#comment-5475 Meek doesn't equal wimp! Meek doesn’t equal wimp!

]]> By: fred http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-5474 fred Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:48:08 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/20/the-meek-christian/#comment-5474 If you don't love enough to confront people when it is needed you aren't very much like Christ. Jesus didn't hesitate to raise his voice and it is written that He hit people. If you don’t love enough to confront people when it is needed you aren’t very much like Christ. Jesus didn’t hesitate to raise his voice and it is written that He hit people.

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