Comments on: In Bed with Israel http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/ A dissident twist of reality... Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:53:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Joe http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Joe Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:16:54 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/#comment-89 I guess <a href="http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/essays/others/blessjews.htm" rel="nofollow">this article</a> from www.hyperhistory.net sums up my feelings about it: <blockquote> Notice, the direct "bless-curse" line concerned Abraham alone, not Israel, and "all the families of the earth" were to be blessed in Abraham, which meant through "his seed," which was Jesus Christ (see Galatians 3:16). In order to receive that very blessing, individuals must be willing to be "turned away" from their sins by God's grace (see Acts 3:25,26). In Deuteronomy 28, God said if Israel followed Him she would be "blessed," but if she strayed, she would be "cursed." Throughout the Old Testament, God's blessing or curse upon the Israelites was connected to their faith and obedience to His will. In the Bible, there is NO UNCONDITIONAL BLESSING upon any individual or nation that chooses to reject faith and disobey God. Paul said that "glory, honor, and peace" would come upon "the Jew first, and also the Gentile," if they do what is right, whereas "indignation and wrath" would come "upon every soul of man that doeth evil, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile … for there is no respecter of persons with God" (Romans 2:8-11). If Jews respond to God's love, repent of their sins, trust in Jesus Christ as their promised Messiah, and do good, they will be blessed. If they don't, they will be cursed. The same is true for every human being inside Jerusalem, America, Russia, Europe, China, or Japan. There is no UNCONDITIONAL BLESSING in the Bible upon any man or nation, including America or the modern nation of Israel. </blockquote> Different opinions are what makes the world go round :-) P.S. Jodi found that LIFE magazine; I'm gonna scan that photo of you soon and share it... Love ya! Joe I guess this article from http://www.hyperhistory.net sums up my feelings about it:

Notice, the direct “bless-curse” line concerned Abraham alone, not Israel, and “all the families of the earth” were to be blessed in Abraham, which meant through “his seed,” which was Jesus Christ (see Galatians 3:16). In order to receive that very blessing, individuals must be willing to be “turned away” from their sins by God’s grace (see Acts 3:25,26).

In Deuteronomy 28, God said if Israel followed Him she would be “blessed,” but if she strayed, she would be “cursed.” Throughout the Old Testament, God’s blessing or curse upon the Israelites was connected to their faith and obedience to His will. In the Bible, there is NO UNCONDITIONAL BLESSING upon any individual or nation that chooses to reject faith and disobey God. Paul said that “glory, honor, and peace” would come upon “the Jew first, and also the Gentile,” if they do what is right, whereas “indignation and wrath” would come “upon every soul of man that doeth evil, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile … for there is no respecter of persons with God” (Romans 2:8-11).

If Jews respond to God’s love, repent of their sins, trust in Jesus Christ as their promised Messiah, and do good, they will be blessed. If they don’t, they will be cursed. The same is true for every human being inside Jerusalem, America, Russia, Europe, China, or Japan.

There is no UNCONDITIONAL BLESSING in the Bible upon any man or nation, including America or the modern nation of Israel.

Different opinions are what makes the world go round :-)

P.S. Jodi found that LIFE magazine; I’m gonna scan that photo of you soon and share it…

Love ya!
Joe

]]> By: Berta http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Berta Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:44:39 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/#comment-88 Hey: Try Genesis 12: (whole chapter). I have always prayed for Israel and they (like U.S.) have their up's and downs! In Genesis 12 "GOD" says: I will bless those who bless you and CURSE those who curse you! So it all boils down to .... do you believe GOD or do you NOT! It is hard to bless those who do evil agains you...but agaiin...One of the 10 commandments. That is if I am still in my right mind. Ha. Love you guys. Berta Hey: Try Genesis 12: (whole chapter). I have always prayed for Israel and they (like U.S.) have their up’s and downs! In Genesis 12 “GOD” says: I will bless those who bless you and CURSE those who curse you! So it all boils down to …. do you believe GOD or do you NOT! It is hard to bless those who do evil agains you…but agaiin…One of the 10 commandments. That is if I am still in my right mind. Ha.
Love you guys.
Berta

]]> By: Joe http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Joe Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:07:08 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/#comment-81 I really wasn't trying to start a flame war here, but Israel smart-bombed a UN observer post in Lebanon (<a href=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5215366.stm" rel="nofollow">link</a>) and said it was an accident. Last week, an Israeli sniper shot a 12 year old girl in the head (<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/11/04/gaza-airstrike.html?ref=rss" rel="nofollow">link</a>) And then they just killed 18 civilians in Gaza, including 7 women and 4 children (<a href="http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-11-08T160610Z_01_L12263400_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C1-topNews-5" rel="nofollow">link</a>). There's only so many times the "accident" excuse is remotely believable, and that time has long since passed. I really wasn’t trying to start a flame war here, but Israel smart-bombed a UN observer post in Lebanon (link) and said it was an accident.
Last week, an Israeli sniper shot a 12 year old girl in the head (link)
And then they just killed 18 civilians in Gaza, including 7 women and 4 children (link).
There’s only so many times the “accident” excuse is remotely believable, and that time has long since passed.

]]> By: Ed http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-80 Ed Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:43:46 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/#comment-80 Yes, and perhaps when the Israeli stop killing Arabs, imprisoning Arabs, oppressing Arabs and trying to destroy Arabs, they will stop trying to protect themselves. Maybe then they will get over their rage at what Israel has been allowed to do to them. Maybe then there will be peace. But as long as there are people like you around, it seems unlikely. Yes, and perhaps when the Israeli stop killing Arabs, imprisoning Arabs, oppressing Arabs and trying to destroy Arabs, they will stop trying to protect themselves. Maybe then they will get over their rage at what Israel has been allowed to do to them. Maybe then there will be peace. But as long as there are people like you around, it seems unlikely.

]]> By: J http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-79 J Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:27:14 +0000 http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2006/11/13/in-bed-with-israel/#comment-79 Perhaps when the Arabs finally stop trying to destroy Israel, then there'll be peace. Perhaps when the Arabs finally stop trying to destroy Israel, then there’ll be peace.

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